I tend to not side with cops, from personal experience I find the majority (not all but a lot more than half) are horrible human beings and definitely should not be issued a fire arm and/or govt costume. They typically have room temperature IQ’s and were the stereotypical bullies when in grade and high school.
I read this story and want to know a few things.
- Did the attacker get a shot off?
- I suspect it was the typical service pistol like a G17 so that was approximately half a magazine of rounds that the officer unloaded. Were all of those 8 shots prudent and necessary? (Keep in mind NY doesn’t think citizens should be allowed to have firearms with that many rounds in the magazine).
- If this girl had a boyfriend/friend who carried and responded as the cop did (unintentially killing the victim), would they be viewed in the same light as the officer or crucified for exercising their judgement?
My guess is that the officer was willing to talk to the attacker while he was only pointing the gun at a civilian but once the gun was pointed at the officer, the attacker violated the most ardently practiced rule of officer safety, which is the supreme law of the land. The shooting in NY where the cops shot wildly at an armed man and injured many civilians comes to mind.
I question many things whenever there is a conflict between “public safety” and “officer safety”.
I will admit it was a split second decision and hope I live the rest of my life never having to make one that approaches that level of difficulty and finality; but I also don’t think I would empty half my mag in that situation either. I’ll wait until more facts come out to form a finalized opinion.
Article from Yahoo News Below:
Split-second choice ended with NY student dead
By VERENA DOBNIK | Associated Press – 1 hr 29 mins ago
NEW YORK (AP) — The college student was being held in a headlock by a masked intruder with a loaded gun to her head, police said. Then the gunman took aim at an officer.
A moment later both Hofstra University junior Andrea Rebello and the intruder were dead — killed after a split-second decision that is perhaps the most harrowing in law enforcement: when to pull the trigger.
“The big question is, how do you know, when someone’s pointing a gun at you, whether you should keep talking to them, or shoot?” said Michele Galietta, a professor of psychology at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice who helps train police officers. “That’s what makes the job of an officer amazingly difficult.”
She spoke Sunday as Hofstra University students honored Rebello, a popular 21-year-old public relations major, by wearing white ribbons at their graduation ceremony.
Rebello’s funeral is scheduled for Wednesday in Sleepy Hollow, north of New York City.
The news that she died from a police bullet came as “a second shock” for the already devastated family, said Henry Santos, Rebello’s godfather.
“I think it really is more tragic,” said Carol Conklin-Spillane, principal of Sleepy Hollow High School, where Rebello and her twin sister graduated in 2010. “My heart goes out to everyone. You have to empathize with the police officer. He’s dealing with the consequences of a split-second decision.”
“We’re talking informally with the seniors who are getting ready to leave us,” the principal said. “Graduating is “a scary proposition to begin with and we’re helping them with any extra anxiety.”
At the family’s home in Tarrytown, a handwritten note on white paper was taped to the shingles next to the door.
“Please respect the family’s privacy. We are in a state of grief, thank-you. But we are not talking,” it said.
Rebello’s life ended in the seconds that forced the veteran police officer to make a fatal decision, but the questions surrounding the student’s death are just beginning, along with an internal investigation by the Nassau County Police Department.
Rebello and the intruder, Dalton Smith, died early Friday when the officer fired eight shots, hitting him seven times and her once in the head, according to county homicide squad Lt. John Azzata.
With a gun pointed at her, Smith “kept saying, ‘I’m going to kill her,’ and then he pointed the gun at the police officer,” according to Azzata.
The officer acted quickly, saying later that he believed his and Rebello’s lives were in danger, according to authorities.
No doubt, he was acting to try to save lives — his own and that of the young woman, Galietta said.
“What we’re asking the cop to anticipate is, ‘What is going on in the suspect’s mind at the moment?’” she said. “We’re always trying to de-escalate, to contain a situation, but the issue of safety comes in first, and that’s the evaluation the officer has to make.”
Eugene O’Donnell, a former New York City police officer and professor of law and police studies at John Jay College, said the crucial issue may be whether or not police had deemed it a hostage situation. If so, he said, there are protocols police follow to buy time, slow down, isolate and assess.
But O’Donnell said the officers may have had few options because of “an eyeball to eyeball confrontation between the officer and the offender.”
“It may have been too fluid to deteriorate for the officers to do anything else,” O’Donnell said. “It underscores that there’s no two of these that are exactly alike.”
Police tactical manuals are meant to assist officers in making the best decision possible, but in the end, “they’re not 100 percent foolproof,” Galietta said. “In a situation like that, you can follow procedure, and it doesn’t mean it comes out perfectly.”
Hofstra student John Kourtessis told the New York Post that he’d gone to a bar with Rebello and a few other friends to celebrate the end of school. When they got back to Rebello’s house, she asked him to move his car and he went upstairs to get his keys.
When he came back down, he said, Smith was there. He said Smith kept talking about “the Russian guy,” insisting the house’s residents owed a Russian man money and that he was outside waiting.
“He was saying … that he just needed us to cooperate. I said, ‘Listen, we have all this money here.’”
Kourtessis said the students offered Smith computers, jewelry and other items from the house but that Smith kept demanding more money.
The officer who fired the shots is an eight-year NYPD veteran and has been with Nassau County police for 12 years.
He is now out on sick leave, Azzata said.
Procedurally, the Nassau County district attorney would determine whether an officer’s use of deadly force was justified, O’Donnell said. A spokesman for the prosecutor’s office said Monday it is monitoring the ongoing police investigation.
Associated Press writers Frank Eltman in Mineola, N.Y., Jim Fitzgerald in Sleepy Hollow, N.Y., and Jake Pearson in New York City contributed to this report.